Aaron Harber continues his conversation with Bill Armstrong, Hank Brown, Wayne Allard and Tim Wirth, turning this time to leadership. Participants discuss whether and what the American people can be asked to sacrifice in order to improve the services and infrastructure provided and maintained by governments. Climate change and energy policy are also discussed. Participants present their views on the underlying reasons for high energy prices, suggesting government policy has had a large part to play, and propose strategies for moving forward.